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Knives in Prog ;
"it is not safe to see prog bands" claims
Martin


Silhobbit.com looks at the increasing rise of stabbings at  Prog concerts and asks if more can be done?
 



70's fans took knives to concerts but they wern'tr used.
Everyone loves knives, but increasingly they bring misery when they are misused.

For decades a knife has been a status symbol, a tool, a sex-aid, and weapon of self-defence. A recent spate of stabbings at prog concerts has brought shame upon the music we all love.

It is the tenth anniversary of the death of Martin Taylor who was knifed at a Jadis garden gig, his death shocked everyone who knew this innocent fan of progressive-rock.
At the time Silhobbit reported this, and We thought that this was a one-off and whilst fans carried knives to Camel concerts in the 1970's they remained firmly hidden away and rarely used.

"It is not safe to go to prog concerts, too often I see people stabbing each other during a gig.  Girls will attack other girls over Gary Chandler" claims Iq and Jadis keyboard player Martin Orford


Last month an argument at Kino's gig in London saw another stabbing in the female toilets after heated exchanges between to girls jostling for prime position at the front of the stage.

Their arguments led to the pointless stabbing of John Mitchel fan 'Tiffany Hughes' who is still suffering in hospital.

Her family said she was a "bubbly girl who was hoping to be a pornographic actress" - her dreams now sadly in tatters. Kino visited the girl in hospital and gave her a signed cd of their brilliant debut album 'Picture' and some fruit, maybe grapes.

"The only time we want to hear the word 'Knife' at a prog concert is when Genesis play their rip-roaring encore classic from 'Trespass'" John Jowet



Mark  "fans smuggle weapons disguised as keys or gnomes "
Hardly a week goes by without blood being spilled at a progressive-rock concert.

The recent Marillion Weekend saw another fatal knife attack after a shortage of 'Guardian' newspapers left fans angry.

Keyboardist Mark Kelly told Silhobbit - "these holiday-camps cater for the type of people who read 'The Daily Star' or 'The Sun' and so we told the camp-shop that our fans read broadsheets, they foolishly ignored our plea for proper newspapers and fighting broke out over the last copy of 'The Guardian'. Three fans ended up stabbed" he sighs

"We had security, but many knives are disguised as keys or tv remotes and smuggled in people's arses" adds vocalist Steve Hogarth


"The only time we want to hear the word 'Knife Slash' at a prog concert is when Pallas play their rip-roaring  classic from 'Cut and Run' "says Cliff Orsi


Pendragon's Peter Gee wants fans to settle their disputes with "good old fashioned  fist fights" he told us

"in my day if I had a problem at a King Crimson gig a strong right-hook solved a lot and nobody got seriously injured" he adds

Silhobbit.com has started up a campaign to end this sickening trend which is bringing our music into disrepute and killing the music, literally.

We've got the backing from many of the stars including Galahad's 'Stu Nicholson', IQ's Pete Nicholls, and Genesis drummer 'Chester Thompson'.

All of them support our message and we urge you all to leave your knives at home.


Peter Gee "in my day problems were solved with a punch"

 


"The only time we want to hear the word 'sharp as a Knife' at a prog concert is when It Bites play their rip-roaring opener 'Kiss like Judas'" says Pete Gee
 


Know your Knives - John Mitchell's Guide

Jack Knife - single-ended: they have their blade or blades hinged at one end. There are a few styles of stout double-ended jack knives.

Multi-Blade - these Knives have a multitude of blades. They can have as few as three and as many as hundred or more. Generally at least one of the blades is a special purpose blade, such as a sheep-foot blade.
Pen Knives - lightweight small double-ended knives. Most have two or three or more lightweight blades hinged in both ends. Some of the smallest pen knives are single-ended, much like tiny jack knives.

Throwing Knife - A 'Thrower' is dedicated to throwing weapons, whether for sport, natural survival, or self-defence! These include many ancient weapons and their modern counterparts.

Butter Knife - a small knife with a dull blade; for cutting or spreading butter

Swiss Army Knife - any of various penknives with different blades and tools
Dagger - A short pointed weapon with sharp edges
Bread Knife - a knife used to cut bread
Stanley Knife - every builder, decorater, workman uses this handy tool.
Kitchen Knife - a knife used to cut up kitchens.
Wife knife - a short knife for discipline usage

Fish knife - a small table knife with a spatula blade used for eating fish. Or the knife used by the ex Marillion frontman.

Switchblade - A pocketknife having a spring-operated blade that opens instantly when a release on the handle is pressed. Also called switchblade knife, switch knife.

Cheese Knife - a knife used to cut up cheese like cheddar.


 

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KNOWING THE LAW

Knife laws vary from state to state,  Laws are also changed or
amended from time to time. This often occurs in a “knee-jerk” reaction to some problem or
event. Also, courts, in the form of opinions addressing a given case or dispute, interpret
these laws. Each "interpretation" introduces another change or perhaps refinement to the
law. Accordingly, it would be an ongoing task to maintain an up-to-date reference of all
American jurisdictions as specifically related to knives.
The individual interested in learning about the laws involving or pertaining to knives
in a given state, or perhaps more importantly, in avoiding difficulty with the laws, should
turn to the state statutes or legislative enactments, and in particular, those dealing with crimes.
You may find that for a given state this would be described or referred to as the
Penal Code or Crimes Code. Within this Code, you will likely find laws regarding knives
under any of the following headings:

Prohibited Weapons
-- Typically there will be a statute defining listing various
weapons which are prohibited. As to knives, there may be specific size/blade length
limitations. Often times there will be prohibitions against "dirks or daggers." Switchblades
or other knives, the blade of which is exposed by gravity or mechanical
action, are frequently prohibited.

Possessing Instruments of Crime --
This type of law deals with the possession of
an instrument not otherwise illegal but possessed under circumstances indicating
intent to employ the instrument for criminal purposes. For example, a 12-inch
butcher knife would be commonplace and unquestionably legal in a butcher shop or
meat packing plant, but might be questionable in the proverbial dark alley at 3:00
o'clock a.m. This type of law is sometimes found under the heading of "inchoate
crimes."

Possession of a weapon in a prohibited area
 -- In most states, it is a crime to
possess a knife on school grounds. In some instances, exceptions are made for
small pocketknives. It is also a crime in many states to possess a weapon to
include a knife in a court facility or some other government buildings.

Charlie's Comment

We urge you to leave your knives at home and put a stop to the misery that is epidemic in today's prog scene. If we don't clean-up our music will be banned and nobody wants that!

Remember - Save Lives and dump your Knives !